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26 November 2008

Proposition 8 and Gay Marriage

My Comments:

I usually do not post hate speech and summarily dismiss these types of conversations. However, I received this email from an unlikely source: my father. He then wrote an excellent rebuttal. Considering he is an ordained Christian minister, I found it interesting and asked him if I could post it here. He agreed. So thanks Dad!

I am going to post these unedited. However, just know that as much as my father takes a religious view of this, I would take exception to the historical references and would note that the "Founding Fathers" also were not infallible. Our own president-elect would have been considered merely 60% of a human during the time of the "Founding Fathers." Inter-racial marriage, women voting, and myriad other things that we consider commonplace now, would have the Founding Fathers aghast if they were alive today. Additionally, Rome and Greece did not fall because of homosexuality. They fell because of the Lucullan lifestyles of its populace. Thus, we should consider our way of life and rampant consumerism if we feel as though America is about to "fall." Regardless, the historical aspects of this email that I am about to post are essentially rubbish. Furthermore, I do not believe that a homosexual is a reprobate doomed to eternal damnation. I believe that gay-bashing is inherently wrong and that "religious" people who use the Bible or the Qu'ran as their reason for justifying gay-bashing are simply wrong. Without further here is the first post (the one I vehemently disagree with.)

Be Scared California… Be VERY SCARED!

On March 7, 2000, millions of Californians voted and passed that:


But then on May 15, 2008, four liberal San Francisco judges threw aside the vote of millions of Californians forcing the legalization of gay marriages. Since that shameful day the state has experienced record forest fires! - A record budget crisis! - State-wide drought! - Record home foreclosures. Not to mention the general economic meltdown.

Just a coincidence? Think again!
Jesus foretold that conditions in the world before the end would resemble the conditions of Sodom just before their destruction.

"Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot: They ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; "but on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. "Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed” (Luke 17:28-30)
The Scripture plainly tell us why God destroyed Sodom. "Because their sin is very grave." Genesis 18:20.

The very strongest language in the bible is used to denounce homosexual behavior and it is mentioned alongside bestiality.

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. 'Nor shall you mate with any animal, to defile yourself with it. Nor shall any woman stand before an animal to mate with it. It is perversion" (Leviticus 18:22, 23).
“If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13).
Fact - Moral bankruptcy led to the implosion of the Babylonian- Persian- Greek- and Roman empires. America is now following in the footsteps of these fallen civilizations. “As goes California, so goes the country.” California can still slow the approaching disaster and buy a few more years of tranquility if we vote YES ON PROPOSITION 8!

Help restore the blessing and protection of God on our country,
Fact! Our Founding Fathers — such as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin,— all believed certain truths are “self evident”. Among those truths was the belief that homosexuality was unnatural and deviant behavior. William Blackstone, whose Commentary on the Law is the basis of law in America, said homosexuality was “so reprehensible that he was ashamed even to discuss it.” He called it a “detestable … infamous crime against nature.”
Gay activists are kidnapping the definition of marriage, the state, and our freedoms. Unless we resist this robbery of our liberties, judgment will be at our doors! Vote — yes, Yes, YES on Prop 8!


What does proposition 8 say? 14 simple words;
"Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid and recognized in California.”

It is a tragic shame that we must vote on what Americans have always believed to be a basic truth. SO WHAT CHANGED?

Hollywood is pouring millions of dollars into defeating Proposition 8. That itself should tell you something!

The liberal media has been systematically working to brainwash the conscience of Americans to accept this obvious perversion as normal. The television and theaters are saturated with messages glorifying the homosexual lifestyle and portraying them as a misunderstood minority. Gay activists are not a minority, they are a rich special interest group. We need to wake up and see what is happening before it's too late! VOTE YES ON PROPOSITION 8!

What can we expect if Proposition 8 fails?
· Confused kids will be taught in school that gay marriage is just as healthy, normal, and valid as traditional marriage. It already happening. (Link)
· Photographers, bakers, limo drivers, et… will be sued for not wanting to serve Gay weddings. It’s already happening.
· Anyone who speaks against gay marriage will be labeled a “Homophobe” as though they have a mental illness, and be required to receive counseling.
· Groups like the ACLU will force churches to perform gay "weddings" in order to maintain their tax-exempt status.
· Pastors who dare to teach what the Bible says regarding homosexual behavior will be accused of "hate speech". It's already happening in Canada!

And this is only the tip of the iceberg!

Please! If you value common decency and American freedom, vote yes, Yes, YES! on proposition 8!

….and Please forward this e-mail now to everybody you can, …even if you're not a resident in California.

“If the right are silent, the wrong will rule.”

If Proposition 8 fails…. BE SCARED CALIFORNIA…. BE VERY SCARED!Visit www.AdventistsFor8.com for more information!


Vera Ikeji said...

Hey Richard, I COMPLETELY agree with ur dad.
Women and Men were made for a particular reason. If not the human race would have been a single sex; either just male or female, not both.
If homosexuality wasn't a bad thing, people wouldn't hide it, parents won't banish their children from home, the Arabs would not kill them. Here in Nigeria, there is a minimum jail term of 6years imposed on anyone who proclaims being gay. Let's call a spade a spade. I am sorry, but I think homosexuality is a psychological disorder in one's brain, cos I don't see why any normal man would prefer another man to a beautiful, sexy babe with nice curves, tits and a hot body. It's crazy! lol. I feel sorry for guys who look like girls, it aint their fault if they are gay, but guys who look like REAL MEN are.....HOMOSEXUALITY isn't healthy. PERIOD!

Richard the Nomad said...

Actually, that is not what he said. He doesn't agree with this. This was a post that was put up and he wrote a response which is the post above. I agree with him and not this post.

Vera Ikeji said...

Ooops! I guess I read it wrong, lol.